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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11148 |
VICE new 8580 filters test build
https://sourceforge.net/projects/vice-emu/files/experimental%20..
this is supposed to fix the "farting filters" in the new revised 8580 filter code by leandro nini.
please check problematic tunes :) |
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Dano
Registered: Jul 2004
Posts: 228 |
Nope "Restore to default settings" didn't make a change here.
Still the browser is way way louder..
Have to set the renderer to cairo due to my graphics card in the laptop, but that should make a difference?
Ftr the build you supplied is equally low on volume here.
Ftr2 C64debugger seems to be on the lower volume sid aswell.
Sidplay2.6w is way louder.
So yeah, i am open for ideas :) |
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psych
Registered: Aug 2004
Posts: 141 |
Quality of sound is improved comparing to the previous version, however, I still think 2.4 sounds better, at least to me. Nevertheless, hell of a job! |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11148 |
"the previous version" has exactly the same filter code (and sound) as 2.4 :) |
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psych
Registered: Aug 2004
Posts: 141 |
So I have no clue why 2.4 sounds better to me :) Maybe this 25 years of sid masturbation slowely destroys my hearing :) |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11148 |
Quote:Maybe this 25 years of masturbation slowely destroys my hearing :)
fixed =D |
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spider-j
Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 449 |
Hey, thx @ Groepaz for the personal invitation :-)
I can confirm the current revision fixed that weird distortion glitch I got on my vice builds.
The tune in this demo had heavy problems before: You Will Be a Fossil Soon
New Filters Before:
https://jansalleine.com/trans/fossil-vice-new-filters.wav
New Filters Current:
https://jansalleine.com/trans/fossil-vice-new-filters-r37853.wav
Old Filters:
https://jansalleine.com/trans/fossil-vice-old-filters.wav
Unfortunately I still don't have a setup that allows recording from real machine for a "real" comparison. But it for sure doesn't sound anything like the completely distorted filters in the first WAV ;-) |
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Burglar
Registered: Dec 2004
Posts: 1050 |
I think it's safe to conclude it's all Linus & GRG's fault. Without them, emulation would've been perfect for years already ;)
also playing that fossil intro now, and yup this sounds pretty good now, I also remember this one sounded fucked up in the past too. |
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psych
Registered: Aug 2004
Posts: 141 |
Quote: Quote:Maybe this 25 years of masturbation slowely destroys my hearing :)
fixed =D
Thanks. I thought it’s due to the heavy overload of loud sid listening ;) should stop wanking immediately ;)
I did few comparisons with real hardware recording done by Xiny6581 and I still think new version struggles with filters. Check Hang Drum - https://youtu.be/FMbT2EtJqY8 and then listen to it at Vice. There is slight difference. Vice 2.4 sounds exactly as on the real machine. Maybe it just me but you were asking for the feedback so I’ve shared my five cents. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11148 |
Damn nice tune :=)
I can hear the problem with the regular filters (which are like 2.4), but not with the new ones. *shrug* |
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psych
Registered: Aug 2004
Posts: 141 |
Ok, I've been adjusting filter bias and by increasing the value up to -2200/-2400 it sounds better.
In case of this tune Bad Ass I went up to -1500 to achieve good result.
Thanks for your hard work guys. |
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