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2002-11-27 18:50
Richard

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 619
Domination #17 - Shit news - Here's the proper story!

What's the big idea posting shit about Excess and me as an Excess member? I'm not an Excess member. We know who the culprit is posting shit about Excess, when it wasn't Excess' fault but mine.

I admit that I passed my game 'Bomb Chase' to St0rmfr0nt/Excess via Email, because Urine (or should I say Onslaught) had first released a beta-version of this game which weren't meant to be spread. Later on, St0rmfr0nt/Excess firstreleased a properly trained version of this game (Which loads of people enjoyed) and added to the releasenote about Urine's version of the game being beta.

A day later St0rmfr0nt Emailed me asking me why I did a fake Excess release of Bomb Chase, and that I wasn't a member or Excess (Nor shall I be because I'm in 2 groups already). I told St0rmfr0nt the truth and told him that there's a lamer somewhere who probably thought it would be funny to do a fake Excess release.

I was really pissed off and we were suspicious that Jazzcat could have been behind the prank, after the Urine release had proved to be some fake. Urine tried to re-release the proper version of Bomb Chase but failed, because I asked all FTP owners to remove the release, as I had a feeling that Urine was really going to piss hard on my work.

I come up with a cunning plan (not so clever) which was create a FAKE ONSLAUGHT firstrelease of the same game. I also uploaded a few versions of Bomb Chase (Not Excess ones though, but TND. One with TND intro with a message attacking Onslaught, and another with no intro). I also uploaded a note to remove the fakes and just keep the genuine TND (intro-less) version of my game, and also the PROPER 'Excess' version of the game.

And (pant, pant) that's how the story goes. I am NOT (i repeat) NOT and Excess member, but a regular friendly contact with Excess. But from now on, I think I should let other groups try first releases of my work - for competition, no matter what. The Urine of Bomb Chase must have been some sort of joke. That game was too good to be lame - or was it to do with the graphics I prepared using Jon's the Multi-Screen Construction Kit?

If anyone adds to any news any more crap about either TND or Excess. We will be sure to bite back. Just wait and see.

I apologise for the grief I have cause concerning the uploading of the FTP's, but now....I think we are owed an apology!
 
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2002-12-02 16:53
CreaMD

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3036
Quote: Domination is one of the few REAL mags of today. It's great the way it is but I think it's time for a new outfit.

;-) this is what we in Dmagic internally call *wannabe improvement request*. Takes more time than it's worth.

Changing well working engines is a waste of time, it's goot that authors rather concentrate on more-or-less regular releases of the magazine.

Roman
2002-12-02 17:00
Pater Pi
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Posts: 121
No new outfit, this is how we know and love Domination 8)
2002-12-02 17:08
Richard

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 619
Anyway, the good bits about Domination #17.

I found loads of articles pretty interesting, including a scene related discussion regarding the cracking scene. I also enjoyed the interviews, not to mention the goodies you gave away. Well done. Let's see more.

I think it would be even more cool if Domination had been produced more often, something like quarterly. I'm hoping that this would gain more readership. It would be nice to see more like this.

BTW: Ignore the stupid things I done regarding releases.
2002-12-02 18:28
hollowman

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 474
the outfit is great, no need to do anything about it

as for twoflowers article, i can agree on the hard words against the idlers and the big mouths who talk a lot but produce nothing, and i dont care much for scpu users or welle erdballs musical contribution for mekka either.
however i do find the bashing of those who dont respect the limits of the c64 unnecessary. 4x4, ifli and c64 techno might have been something to complain about if any demos of that kind were actually released nowadays. reflex and smash designs are mentioned as example of how 'wrong' things went. when was the last time reflex released a demo? 5 years ago?

in the opinion poll chapter the question is asked if its good or not with demos mainly being released at parties.
maybe its just me, but i have a feeling that hardly any demos at all have been released this year.
if i try to think of what good demos i've seen in 2002 i can perhaps come up with five if i try real hard. and its not just that the overall quality has been low, its the amount thats been bad.
if there were any releases worth being called demos, there could have been a reason to look at them and criticize, now i just yawn instead and try to think of a reason why i should continue doing stuff myself.
2002-12-02 19:27
Matt

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 595
Quote: Anyway, the good bits about Domination #17.

I found loads of articles pretty interesting, including a scene related discussion regarding the cracking scene. I also enjoyed the interviews, not to mention the goodies you gave away. Well done. Let's see more.

I think it would be even more cool if Domination had been produced more often, something like quarterly. I'm hoping that this would gain more readership. It would be nice to see more like this.

BTW: Ignore the stupid things I done regarding releases.


the mag definitely shouldn't be released more often, no way!

if you ask for quality, let those people release the magazine as often they think it's necessary. it's about quality and not about quantity me thinks.

btw, I really enjoyed reading the last issue.

2002-12-02 22:05
CreaMD

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3036
Quote: the outfit is great, no need to do anything about it

as for twoflowers article, i can agree on the hard words against the idlers and the big mouths who talk a lot but produce nothing, and i dont care much for scpu users or welle erdballs musical contribution for mekka either.
however i do find the bashing of those who dont respect the limits of the c64 unnecessary. 4x4, ifli and c64 techno might have been something to complain about if any demos of that kind were actually released nowadays. reflex and smash designs are mentioned as example of how 'wrong' things went. when was the last time reflex released a demo? 5 years ago?

in the opinion poll chapter the question is asked if its good or not with demos mainly being released at parties.
maybe its just me, but i have a feeling that hardly any demos at all have been released this year.
if i try to think of what good demos i've seen in 2002 i can perhaps come up with five if i try real hard. and its not just that the overall quality has been low, its the amount thats been bad.
if there were any releases worth being called demos, there could have been a reason to look at them and criticize, now i just yawn instead and try to think of a reason why i should continue doing stuff myself.


Yeah. I've been at Cult party #11 on the 3rd november weekend and all slovak ex-sceners were quite bored by the latest C64 production, your demos were praised the most (maybe that's reason why you should continue doing them ;-)).

2002-12-03 18:58
Pater Pi
Account closed

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 121
See it from the positive side: it can't become much worse.
I hope that there will be some more action within the scene during winter and next year.
And yep, i know that i also was among those lazy guys.
2002-12-03 22:54
The Overkiller
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Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 342
I was really upset to read about Scene World considerated a PATHETIC mag. Well, SW won't be probably the best mag around but that word "pathetic" is too hard at my eyes !!!
2002-12-03 23:28
Stryyker

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 465
No one wants their own productions put down but now we restirct free voice? I guess most people have issues with SW because of content, some chapters show promise but don't go anyware. The diskmag reviews tell us nothing, I far longer than the reviews.
2002-12-04 00:16
Rough
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Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1829
Richard, would you please stop excusing yourself every single time someone else doesn't like your words or action! It's annoying. And, please, do not post "Okay" or "I'm sorry" or similar now. Thanks.
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