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Knight Rider
Registered: Mar 2005
Posts: 116 |
Event id #3294 : X-2024
I was having a discussion with a few guys over beers in X'2023 and the compos. I was telling about my days as OR8 pilot in the RC world where we had junior, hobby and pro categories for the races.
To make it abit more motivational the people/groups who aren't 20 members strong each with 30+ years of demo coding experience it might be worth while considering other options ?
eg. some of the ideas we discussed:
. Having a pro (ie previous winner category) and hobby section so that contributors are compared to peers of similar experience
. Splitting the voting/ranking for 1 filers from multi disk entries
. Newcomer award for those individuals or teams who never submitted to X before |
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Raistlin
Registered: Mar 2007
Posts: 575 |
Quote: I hope that, like for me, the demoscene is about creativity and cooperation and competition is only a tiny little aspect of that. Any rules that limit the flowing of that juicy creativity would really be a shame. And putting people in categories of skills is something we left behind a long time ago right? There are no real lamers anymore. Only friends and mutual respect, no matter how skilled you are.
Maybe it is easy for me to say because I am not competitive by nature, but I can hardly believe that people in the scene put those ridicilously long hours into this art to win an award. I am sure they make art for art's sake, why on earth would we put limitations on art?
100% yes. I’ve had people telling me that No Bounds could’ve done better if it had animations, like Bonzai/PL and Censor, or was 3 disks (as though that’s a magic trigger), etc etc. I can’t speak for the rest of the team, of course, but I have no interest in working on animations and such myself. I make demos I like to make, code that I enjoy creating, meeting challenges that I set myself, etc.
I just had someone telling me that my Not Bob’s Bobs part was identical to Censor’s .. it wasn’t - but maybe non-coders wouldn’t quite catch the difference and why it’s significant (codeporn-wise). It doesn’t matter though because it wasn’t meant to be just a crowd-pleaser - it was simply something that I wanted to try, to see if it was possible. I like the challenge.
When you start making demos that are for the crowd, rather than yourself, I think that’s when you can really start to get burnt out and disinterested - because it becomes a job, pandering to others’ tastes. Just do it for yourself - and if others like it too, that’s a nice bonus. |
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Conrad
Registered: Nov 2006
Posts: 838 |
uuurghh... sorry, I can't hold it anymore. PLEASE change that dash to an apostrophe! kthnx. |
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Burglar
Registered: Dec 2004
Posts: 1051 |
X'2024 registration and reservation is now open at https://xparty.net/
It has been a long journey but the completely renewed X-Party Website is live at last! Registration is open so everybody who wants to come and join the C-64 reunion is invited to register an account and reserve a ticket at: https://xparty.net/
Later this week you will be able to purchase your ticket and optionally buy one or more T-Shirts.
We look forward to meet everybody again on the 10th of May in Someren. |
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ptoing
Registered: Sep 2005
Posts: 271 |
So I have booked a ticket for the event, really looking forward to it.
If anyone is going by car from close to where I am (near Freiburg im Breisgau) Could do a rideshare and I would ofc pay for some of the gas. Hit me up with a PM here. |
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Mixer
Registered: Apr 2008
Posts: 422 |
I must say that I like the new xparty.net site design. Joyous look and solid functionality. |
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Burglar
Registered: Dec 2004
Posts: 1051 |
Quoting MixerI must say that I like the new xparty.net site design. Joyous look and solid functionality. Thanks a lot Mixer :) |
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Ninja
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 407 |
Any pre-X warm up meeting happening on Thursday somewhere near the venue? Maybe right in front of the venue? |
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Quiss
Registered: Nov 2016
Posts: 40 |
I second Ninja's question. :)
(Ninja, what kind of weird pre-X sleeping arrangement do you have, that makes the outskirts of Someren into the most convenient location, on Thursday?) |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11149 |
Nerdine and me will be in Eindhoven Thursday Evening, in case someone wants to join... |
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Ninja
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 407 |
@Quiss: Well, my "sleeping arrangement" is motorized, so I am quite flexible. I think I assumed ppl BBQing on Thursday already without the need for a sleeping place till Friday. Seems, I am stuck in the past and times have changed...
@gpz: Meeting in Eindhoven sounds great. Quiss, will you join? |
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